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CBVA Suckout
Spalding volleyball sucks
8/30/2007 4:10:40 PM
by: Administrator
I have been playing in some CBVA tournaments this year, and to my dismay, the CBVA has decided to use the Spalding leather volleyball instead of the Wilson AVP ball. The Spalding ball is totally different than the Wilson. It is much heavier and does not have the same feel at all. As recreationally competitive athletes, we are always trying to emulate professional sports. This includes the equipment they use. I can't stand the Spalding ball, and it blows my mind that the CBVA would use a ball nobody is using for beach volleyball just to put a few bucks in their pockets. Hopefully, they will come to their senses by next year, if not I think I will stop playing in CBVA tournaments. My shoulder gets really worked and painful after playing with that Spalding brick. 
Submitted ByReply 1
Re: "Spalding Suckout"
2/4/2008 2:59:22 AM
by: erndoogie46
First, I apologize in advance for how and what I am going to say to you. I have been playing beach VB for 30 years and am completely disgusted with the way people have let the sport change. Your unhappiness with the ball is just another thing that has happened because of what the powers that be have let Beach VB become. YOU WROTE : I have been playing in some CBVA tournaments this year, and to my dismay, the CBVA has decided to use the Spalding leather volleyball instead of the Wilson AVP ball. The Spalding ball is totally different than the Wilson. It is much heavier and does not have the same feel at all. As recreationally competitive athletes, we are always trying to emulate professional sports. This includes the equipment they use. I can't stand the Spalding ball, and it blows my mind that the CBVA would use a ball nobody is using for beach volleyball just to put a few bucks in their pockets. Hopefully, they will come to their senses by next year, if not I think I will stop playing in CBVA tournaments. My shoulder gets really worked and painful after playing with that Spalding brick. *********************************************** I respond : A) If your shoulder gets "worked and painful" after playing with a REAL Volleyball, the I would advise you to pick up a sport such as Darts, cards, shuffleboard, or roller disco. .... A Volleyball (old school leather) weighs less than a baseball, football, basketball, or even most Kites. If your shoulder hurts from hitting, setting, passing, or serving, then you are a 8 year old girl at best. B) The Wilson AVP ball with the yellow stripes is much closer to a water polo ball than any beach volleyball. It is way too light for an outdoor sport and would be better used on a ping pong table. C) The recent rule changes have destroyed the very essence of Beach Volleyball. 1) the worst change is "Rally Scoring" ... It has taken all the mental toughness and stamina completely out of the game. A "match" can last at the most 1 hour now. A "Game" of Volleyball, as it was meant to be played, could last over 2 hours in the HOT sun. It took great mental and physical strength to outlast a worthy opponent. 2) The antennae's on the beach is just plain dumb. 3)Allowing the ball to hit the net on a serve?? You can land a Fucking Helicopter on either side of a "REAL" VB court.... Why the hell can't you serve the ball in? 4) making the court smaller???? Why? ....... I'll Tell You! : The reason the morons changed all the rules was to make the game accessible to Television. ...... NOBODY is gunna watch VB on TV unless they play or they want to see the girls in bikinis. Also, now VB requires much less: ability/understanding/control/mental toughness/stamina. .......... Bitter old VB Zealot! 
Submitted ByReply 2
Old Ball Days are GONE! Ya!
7/16/2008 10:35:30 AM
by: Helmetboy

A) The shoulder injury may just be in your head, I've been playing for 18 years, I know that a wet old-school all white 18-panel brick Spaulding will end careers.  Ouch. Go fly a kite with on that.

B) Waterpolo, pingpong, two of my favorites!  It comes down to basic volley-skills, we've all adapted to the new fun yellow ball, we love it, it is pretty and very round, as balls should be, not like the 18-flat paneled cubi-con of the old days, now that is archaic.  They are good for one thing, Estero winners’ plaques. 

C) Rules have to change, volley popularity was sucking badly ten years ago, and they needed to get in tune with the masses ... television time frames and the FIVB.  Was there anything about the old format you didn't care for?  Or was it just fine.  They should have kept the 3-second rule out of basketball and never created a 3-point line ... how fun would that be... ugh...

1) "Rally Scoring" ..what? …. You are saying that all the mental toughness and stamina are gone from the game, that it is so easy now?  Like I barely break a sweat, I go home after I play and jump on my treadmill just to get a friggen workout.  Are all the top players out of shape?  Is that what you are seeing?  A lot less are on 'roids that is for sure.  One hour matches?  You see that as a problem? CBVA's would last two days, who has two weekend days to burn?

2) In the 'old ball days', maybe no one could afford to put antennae's on the beach net, or probably you and all those 2-hour volley workhorses you used to play with were way too short to reach the top of the net to put an antennae up, so you just left it in your bag along with your stinky knee pads.  But you definitely brought out the fluorescent green visor with the brim flipped up... that was a great look!

3) And you've never in your 'old ball' volley career ever clipped the net on a serve.  Let me guess, if the ball hit the net these days, you stand straight up and throw your arms out and proclaim, 'this is bs!' and the ball would drop 2'd from your feet.  Have you seen the effort it takes to keep one of those bitches in play?  Knarly!  In side-out scoring, you could wail-away on jump serves and hit it 39 feet out of bounds, but hey, no biggie, you just side out via a deep line pokey on the 92'x92' box on the next serve and you are golden. In rally everything matters, EVERYTHING.  It is a very precise, detailed game, you have to limit your errors, and the days of missing 9 serves and still winning are long gone.  Whew.

4) see reference to 92'x92' above Mr. old balls.

Your last statement:

Also, now VB requires much less: ability/understanding/control/mental toughness/stamina’

made me laugh, I poo’ed myself!

Like I said, EVERYTHING you do on the court matters now, everything is a point, ball control is crucial, precision is key, game strategy is huge, explosive athletic play is required for success!

No more blindly ripping jumpers into a sea of sand, no more lineshots over the friggen net wire, 2” inside the poles, making the court EVEN BIGGER, no more lopsided dorky balls blindly poked into the deep corner where most humans would never even touch it .. ya, you would have to cover more court, but you’d get most of your workout from shagging all those Spaulding’s you never touched.

FACT:  Now VB requires a tremendous amount of skill, ability, knowledge of the game, ball control, mental toughness and stamina.

 

 

 
Submitted ByReply 3
and uh...
7/16/2008 10:40:05 AM
by: Helmetboy

back on topic:   I'm not a big fan of the new Spaulding's ... they dont' hurt my shoulder though, I don't hit hard anymore.

I deep line pokey.... IEEEEEEEY.

 
Submitted ByReply 4
aerodynamic
7/20/2008 8:34:35 PM
by: srvball1
  Im an aerospace engineer and have done several experiments on both the new ball and old ball......I have found that the new ball tends to slice through the air with less drag and trends to have a greater velocity when the same force is place on the ball compared to the old vball. Concluding that the new ball goes quicker on an over line shot then the slow dinosaur old vball....The old vball is a dinosaur like the old soccer balls stitched together with horses hair....

Its time for an upgrade and the new avp ball is way easier on the shoulders especially for the older players that have had about a million shoulder surgery... for me I have grown up playing with the new ball and guess what??

I havent had a problem with my shoulder yet....knock on wood
 
Submitted ByReply 5
3/28/2009 B tournament
3/30/2009 10:33:56 AM
by: Administrator
I played a B tournament this Saturday, and I just wanted to reiterate how much I loathe that big turd that is the Spalding volleyball. Yellow and White AVP ball PLEASE! 
Submitted ByReply 6
CBVA unrated 5/09/2009... congrats on 2nd place!!!
5/10/2009 2:20:14 PM
by: Ritche_Bautista

Hey Administrator(I won't mention your real name, lol), thanks for recording our game at the tournament yesterday and congratulations on getting 2nd place in the tournament.

It's unfortunate that your partner had a cramp, we need to get him more Gatorade! Hope to play against you guys next CBVA tornament.... Hermosa Beach in two weeks perhaps?

Great website and thanks again for your friendship and sportsmanship... take care and I'll see ya at the beach!

-Ritche-

 


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